Your views, thoughts or simply opinions. The Economy is not well (understatement). I know there are some here that will try to link the country they are residing in as problems of the USA. Sorry the USA cannot be responsible for 100% of the problems in the world nor should they be expected to help repair all problems.
leo is not a typical person that can carry on a logical discussion. Anannas can at least explain his ideas without google .even if they are in left field.
Leo has never had to live in the real world apparently either
if he had he would understand this is not a utopian environment
Thanks for the compliment.
I'm definitely left field, but you have me defending CAPITALISM right now.
I'm just explaining what's happening, can you?
You have always been a staunch defender of capitalism and you hate socialism.
Trump is doing something that's not capitalism and not socialism.
Can you tell me what it is that he's trying to implement and why you support it?
Taiwan's President Lai Ching-te on Sunday offered zero tariffs as the basis for talks with the U.S., pledging to remove trade barriers rather than imposing reciprocal measures and saying Taiwanese companies will raise their U.S. investments.
now who is the idiot? zero as in 0 tarriffs. that would be great for all involved. that is FREE trade.
Is that about him admitting he would suck off Trump?
Personally, I don't think you have to be gay, to want to suck cock.
If you do, you're probably also not 100% straight, but who cares.
I think sexual orientation is a sliding scale.
Just like I think gender is very much a sliding scale. I'm very much on the manly side.
Men are very logical and emotionally stable, women tend to be more emotional and
base their thinking on intuition more. That's very consistent with phart's behavior and
the behavior of the other right-wingers. They have a very feminine brain.
It's such a shame that they cannot admit their nature. They would be so much happier accepting it and maybe cross dress every other weekend.
I have always been surprised with the high ratio of conservatives on this website full of cocks. They of course have to suppress any urges, because it's not acceptable in their culture, so they go out on the internet to live out their fantasy anonymously. Also anything that's most taboo turns into a sexual fantasy for many people. That's why the number 1 porn search terms in red states are “shemale”, “tranny”, “femboy”, and “ladyboy”.
You're close.
I just wanted to say that trump keeps fucking him and he's enjoying it.
I was trying to make a joke out of his insistence, and, likewise most maga-idiots, that their Supreme Leader cares about nothing except his own skin.
Have you seen, however, some trumpers from West Virginia who are now crying because despite the fact that they voted for trump, they've been fired from their (federal) jobs because trump decided so?
I’ve no idea. Phart is an ultra-right MAGA type individual but he’s never given me any indication he’s gay. --------------------------------------- added after 4 minutes
Shame on me for not reading the whole story. In the context of the Clown’s actions doing to everyone, yes, Phart has his ass in the air
no, you folks have your noses up in the air and your brains in the sand.
my ass is not in the air, thus far i have noticed little to no affect on my life by Trumps actions. there will be a slight increase in the cost of parts i use to repair seniors equipment and such that i do for cheap or free as far as labor is concerned
That's exactly what I said.
You're enjoying being fucked.
Others, in W VA , for instance,
also trump lovers,
were fucked so badly-- they lost their fed jobs-- that are now regretting having offered their souls,and asses, to a rapist.
You're so hard-core religious though that you'll never admit there's anything wrong even if trump uses your mouth to empty his diarrhea shit. You'll merely say "I get free protein from my president-god."
i don't know where you get your comparisons from but life is going well for me and my family and neighbor's. we don't have to worry about those "Mexicans" we see walking around being illegal or criminal because the bad 1's are being hauled away. the only folks complaining right now are the 1's that were getting free rides . as for the government workers, anyone that is alive can see our government has been bloated for decades. this is a new age, automation can replace alot of humans , just a new telephone system for social security is going to up their game big time. the 1 they use is from the 60's. retirement accounts being handled by hand in a salt mine? that's what computers are for. 120+year olds getting social security checks? how is that ok? that is for people that are alive not dead
I don’t think you’ve noticed but I try to make my posts about the general public and not so much on myself. You are always posting about your situation and, frankly, you are nowhere normal in the way you live your life.
i know alot of folks from different walks of life and so far i have not ran into any one that is not happy with the way things are going.
not normal in how i live my life? sheesh, not being a bum to society is not normal? i don't want to be normal if i am supposed to depend on everyone else for everything.
The only people who are "happy with the way things are going", are billionaires.
The 75% of Americans below them have been doing worse.
That's not because of immigrants, that because Republicans have ONLY
been serving the rich and screwing everyone else.
To make you accept this, they have been paying the media to lie to you.
That's WHY you think "it's those damn illegals", who are rapists, criminals and
gang members, but they also come steal your jobs.
Somehow, those raping gang members find the time to harvest your vegetables
and fruit, pack your meat, build your houses, cut your lawn, etc.
The ideas you have in your brain fall apart in one thought, but you can't see that.
While you and the rest of MAGA believe that stupid lie,
Trump lets Elon destroy your country further for the working class.
They want people to be their slaves and you are giving it to them.
Look at the countries of the dictators that Trump loves so much.
Would you like living in their countries? That's the future Trump holds for you.
Trump is destroying democratic elections, so you cannot vote back what you had,
when you finally get yourself out of the cult.
he is the President,you aint, so apparently he knows more than you or I. besides, you don't have to buy a new car right now. wait and let the dust settle, when the folks get tired of holding their shit, they will reduce their tarrifs and then we will reduce ours.
besides, have you notice oil has went down to 61 dollars a barrel>? have you noticed wholesale gas has went down almost 20 cents a gallon in the past few days>?
um
stock market dropped some. you know well as i do it was getting a bit over board. it will level out.
things take time.
just as surgery to fix a health issue, it takes cuts and blood and pain to get things fixed.
“he is the President,you aint, so apparently he knows more than you or I.”
YES, HE IS THE PRESIDENT AND I’M NOT. DOES THAT MEAN HE IS RIGHT AND I AM WRONG? ARE THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW BECAUSE OF HISTORY, EDUCATION, AND PRESENT HAPPENINGS ARE WRONG TOO?
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besides, you don't have to buy a new car right now. wait and let the dust settle, when the folks get tired of holding their shit, they will reduce their tarrifs and then we will reduce ours.
THE PEOPLE HOLDING THEIR SHIT IS OUR GOVERNMENT. THE ECONOMY WAS DOING JUST FINE. WHY BREAK IT? AND WHAT HAPPENS IF I NEED A CAR OR ANYTHING NOW?
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besides, have you notice oil has went down to 61 dollars a barrel>? have you noticed wholesale gas has went down almost 20 cents a gallon in the past few days>?
um
YES, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM. OPEC WANTS TO BE IN A GOOD POSITION FOR THE MESS COMING.
“Eight key OPEC+ producers on Thuesday agreed to raise combined crude oil output by 411,000 barrels per day, speeding up the pace of their scheduled hikes and pushing down oil prices.
The group was widely expected to implement an increase of just under 140,000 barrels per day next month.
The May hike agreed on Thursday is “equivalent to three monthly increments,” OPEC said in a statement, adding that “the gradual increases may be paused or reversed subject to evolving market conditions.”
THERE’S ALSO A CONSENSUS OF ECONOMISTS THAT OIL, AS ONE OF THE FUELS THAT POWER PROSPERITY, MEASURES HOW AN ECONOMY IS WORKING. SUPPLY AND DEMAND COMES INTO PLAY. AS THE ECONOMY TANKS, LESS OIL IS USED. THIS CREATES A GLUT AND PRICE GOES DOWN.
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stock market dropped some. you know well as i do it was getting a bit over board. it will level out.
things take time.
just as surgery to fix a health issue, it takes cuts and blood and pain to get things fixed.
IT WAS NOT A BIT OVERBOARD. THE PRICE OF STOCKS IS WHATEVER THE MARKET THINKS IT IS. THIS HURTS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE 401K PLANS. IT ALSO HURTS INVESTORS. THE ECONOMY IS TAKING A HIT. AND FOR WHAT?
if you don't sell your stock during a low spell, you don't loose. the only way you loose on a investment is if you use it for collateral on a loan.you can't borrow much on it if your stock went down.
Many Americans are already working second and third jobs. Didn't you know that?
That's something we don't see in Europe, or WAY less.
You are bett1ng on the idea that those stocks will go up one day.
What is the route to recovery that you see? Explain the logic.
The idea is that tariffs will return production to the US, right?
Who is going to do those jobs? The unemployment rate in 2024 was 3.7%.
You are most likely counted as 1 of those 3.7%. Just like fat MAGA moms.
How many millions of immigrants did Trump want to deport?
First you need to fill all the jobs that those immigrants were doing.
Then where do you find the workers to do those production jobs?
And then I would like you to explain who's going to buy those American products?
You can forget about all the countries you just tariffed.
Do you think Asia will ever need what you are making?
In Europe, we can make those products cheaper in our own countries.
Just because the US tariffed everyone, doesn't mean they'll tariff each other.
The result is that the US either makes, sells and buys its own products, or you think you can out-compete the global market by still being cheaper, after tariffs.
It must be the last option, because you don't want wages to go up.
Without wages rising, you won't have Americans who can afford those products.
So, you think you can make those products cheaper and better than China.
-> Americans need to work harder and more efficient than Chinese people.
Another alternative is only making high-tech, high-value products.
You need highly educated technicians to build that production infrastructure.
Trump is destroying education as we speak, so that's not going to happen.
You are towards an economy of dumb workers, who are paid less than Chinese people and work harder, thinking you can out-compete China, while China is heavily investing in education and innovation. Do you want to switch positions with China from a few decades ago?
I'm asking you all of this, because I want you to show that you put any thought
to the future of your country and the choices you make as a voter.
What if you don't have insurance or it's too small and want to buy a home and need the money in your 401k for the down payment? Do you know of any job that you can get that will pay you the down payment in one week?
Look, it doesn't matter what you or I think. At the end of the day people with 401K's lost a huge value of their principal and even if they have time to recoup some of that money, they never get it all back. And in this case I know personally. In 2008 MY 401 lost 40% and I was never able to get it back.
He wrote
"he is the President,you aint, so apparently he knows more than you or I.”
But he meant
"he is the one and only supreme almighty leader god,you aint, so apparently he knows more than you or I.”
He doesn't see trump as president,
he sees him as his personal god,
even though he'll deny that.
His devotion to him is the devotion
of a member of a religious cult.
He's ready to die for him and nothing will change his view,
not even I'd his god killed him.
leopoldij CAT52!
here are some of those friendly bean picking farm hands that have been sent away.
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, six carried charges of child molestation, and one was charged with raxe,
cat's man has a record and is regularly reminded of it, but when others that have done the same or far worse are hauled away making our country safe, we are all supposedly
'getting fucked" leo, you make no sense at all sometimes.
you may not agree that jobs are important, but it might help bring back manufacturing jobs ,and allow us to be more independent. manufacturing jobs don't require expensive college educations. and sadly right now to much our needs are being filled by folks overseas. medicine for our sick, ammo for our military and etc. being self sufficient is important to national security.
You are correct that tariffs could bring back manufacturing jobs.
If that was what Trump is doing now, I would praise him, even if it hurt my country.
Everyone in the world would understand and accept that, if that was what he was doing.
That's not what he is doing and that's not what he is saying.
He is starting a trade war for complete nonsense.
And there is no logic at all to HOW he's doing it.
Trump is completely incapable of doing what you are saying
and he didn't hire 'the best people' to advise him on this.
He's just doing incredibly stupid random shit, that will hurt EVERYONE.
You cannot expect your country to manufacture lumber like Canada was selling you,
in a few years. You cannot expect your automotive industry to make all the parts in
the US, at the same price as when you can buy them internationally. These are just 2 examples of tariffs that are going to hurt you, because your destroying your own global competition. You are also making the construction of your houses more expensive,
in a time when more and more people already cannot afford to buy a home.
While you need to bring back all those manufacturing jobs, you are simultaneously kicking out millions of immigrants who were doing your cheapest labor. You don't have millions of unemployed people who can do those jobs. If you did have them, no one would have welcomed those Haitians in Springfield. The economy of Springfield revived, purely because those Haitians filled the gap in your employment force. And that was BEFORE you deported the fruit and cotton pickers and meat-packers to prison camps
in El Salvador. (at least the results of your own stupidity will serve as a punishment for that cruelty)
The global industry is optimized to utilize the strength of all countries combined.
That's CAPITALISM. It's not my favorite system, but it is what developed humanity
to it's current level. It has tremendous side effects, especially when you let short-sighted selfish wealthy people dominate the system, but it used to work well, before it created
the pollution and inequity that is going to destroy humanity.
Republicans were the biggest advocates of free market capitalism in the world.
You are still always parroting their old arguments back to me. MAGA is now showing completely opposite principles. HOW can you process that in your brain?
How can you completely oppose my arguments, when I tell you that uncontrolled capitalism hurts people, but then argue back to me, that YOUR OWN PRINCIPLES HURT YOU, without being more open to what I have been telling you for years now?
members of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua don't pick beans and apples , i don't know where you get the idea they are great folks to have in our neighborhoods. um, well, i guess we could send them over to stay in your country?
I'm sure some of them were gang members, but they have deported a gay hairdresser, because he had a tattoo with "Mom" on his arm, with no criminal record.
They have deported a father of a 5 y.o. child, naturalized citizen, with no convictions. There is a whole list of people who were DOCUMENTED, never even had a parking ticket, but deported to a prison camp in El Salvador, without one day in court.
And when the get deported there "accidentally", your administration does nothing
to get them back. That's criminal.
And when they ask Trump about it, he says that he doesn't know about it.
"Wir haben es nicht gewußt" did the Nazis say.
Just like you are innocent until you commit a crime, they are.
Immigrants commit way less crimes than 'real' Americans do.
But you keep thinking of them as criminals, who didn't crime yet.
There is only one term for that attitude: "racism".
Ice has mostly picked up people who were working on a farm or in a factory.
Many of them were NOT undocumented, but had some right to work in your country.
The large majority of them have never committed any crimes.
I told you that I don't want undocumented people working in my country either.
But that is the reality. It's not their fault, that's YOUR fault, for voting for Republicans, who took away all the accountability from immigrant exploiting employers, while blocking all the efforts from Democrats to increase workplace inspections and increase the number of green cards and other LEGAL working permits,
to FIX THE SYSTEM.
The PVV party in my country is doing the same thing as your Republicans did.
They are crying about immigrants, while making the system to handle them ineffective. Meanwhile, there are about a million working migrants in our country, getting exploited and creating problems in neighborhoods by being drunk and noisy. They are living with 20 people in an apartment, all paying hundreds of euros to some scummy employment agency. Our left-wing and liberal parties want to fix that exploitation, but the right-wingers block all efforts. Then we hear that there are owners of those scummy employment agencies in the right-wing parties and they get donations from them. Our politics is turning more corrupt, when right-wingers win the elections. They never solve a problem, but only make everything worse. Then they tell the people who get hurt from their actions that immigrants caused their problems and "the left" let them in. Right-wingers are telling the same old lies everywhere.
I don't understand why people like you keep believing them.
crossing the border and living here undocumented is a crime. it is law. so they can be saints otherwise and still, they have commited a crime by being here undocumented.
as for those that are supposedly documented, were the documents legit or fake>? there is a huge market for fake license,id's and such here in the us.
Did you ever look up those laws, or are you just assuming?
A documentation status isn't just owning a paper. Ever heard of records?
They have a big electronic machine, that stores information in the form of zeros and ones, coding for letters. All those computers are linked to each other with wires and radio signals. That way, people can enter information, so others can search and find it. Then they know things about people. It's all very convenient.
When you finally leave the 1940's, you might learn about them.
Ot is normal if you take the biggest consumer society in the world. They will consume more of everything. So in an equal world. They will have a trade imbalance.
now that the tarriff list is out, is it starting to become obvious how bad other countries are screwing us?
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vietnam, 90% tariff, how can we sell them anything?
And why is that? Because they make them cheaper?
That's because Vietnamese people are cheap, not because they screw you.
That's capitalism, the system that you would kill and die for.
A socialist like me would say; we're not going to buy your tires anymore, until you pay your employees a decent wage and stop polluting. Then we would have actually a level playing field, in the global competition race. And we wouldn't destroy humanity, which is kind of nice.
no what we should do is stop paying stupid wages and people relearn to live within a budget. people did it for generations. if my father was able to pay for a house in 1964 on 2 dollars a hour, it could be done today. if the house was the same price and the labor was the same price.
i keep trying to explain to you that this price and wage thing is a hamster wheel, if 1 goes up the other follows and it just keeps going and going .
You keep trying to explain something that is wrong.
You already had a consumer economy, but with your tariffs that's now worse.
People need money to consume and keep your economy going.
This is something Henry Ford understood 100 years ago.
If no one has money to buy your stupid pick up trucks, they'll go bankrupt.
No one but Americans will buy your American products anymore, so it's up to you
to produce it and consume it. That won't work with poor people.
Those 1% of miljonairs and billionaires won't spend enough.
If your ideas are the blueprint, it will completely destroy your economy.
Leo has never had to live in the real world apparently either
if he had he would understand this is not a utopian environment
I'm definitely left field, but you have me defending CAPITALISM right now.
I'm just explaining what's happening, can you?
You have always been a staunch defender of capitalism and you hate socialism.
Trump is doing something that's not capitalism and not socialism.
Can you tell me what it is that he's trying to implement and why you support it?
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now that Trump is actually resetting things, it is horrible. odd,
Taiwan's President Lai Ching-te on Sunday offered zero tariffs as the basis for talks with the U.S., pledging to remove trade barriers rather than imposing reciprocal measures and saying Taiwanese companies will raise their U.S. investments.
now who is the idiot? zero as in 0 tarriffs. that would be great for all involved. that is FREE trade.
Question: why is phart gay?
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P.S. I don't mind at all that he's gay, I'm just asking how one can indubitably decide that phart is gay?
Personally, I don't think you have to be gay, to want to suck cock.
If you do, you're probably also not 100% straight, but who cares.
I think sexual orientation is a sliding scale.
Just like I think gender is very much a sliding scale. I'm very much on the manly side.
Men are very logical and emotionally stable, women tend to be more emotional and
base their thinking on intuition more. That's very consistent with phart's behavior and
the behavior of the other right-wingers. They have a very feminine brain.
It's such a shame that they cannot admit their nature. They would be so much happier accepting it and maybe cross dress every other weekend.
I have always been surprised with the high ratio of conservatives on this website full of cocks. They of course have to suppress any urges, because it's not acceptable in their culture, so they go out on the internet to live out their fantasy anonymously. Also anything that's most taboo turns into a sexual fantasy for many people. That's why the number 1 porn search terms in red states are “shemale”, “tranny”, “femboy”, and “ladyboy”.
I just wanted to say that trump keeps fucking him and he's enjoying it.
I was trying to make a joke out of his insistence, and, likewise most maga-idiots, that their Supreme Leader cares about nothing except his own skin.
Have you seen, however, some trumpers from West Virginia who are now crying because despite the fact that they voted for trump, they've been fired from their (federal) jobs because trump decided so?
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Shame on me for not reading the whole story. In the context of the Clown’s actions doing to everyone, yes, Phart has his ass in the air
my ass is not in the air, thus far i have noticed little to no affect on my life by Trumps actions. there will be a slight increase in the cost of parts i use to repair seniors equipment and such that i do for cheap or free as far as labor is concerned
You're enjoying being fucked.
Others, in W VA , for instance,
also trump lovers,
were fucked so badly-- they lost their fed jobs-- that are now regretting having offered their souls,and asses, to a rapist.
You're so hard-core religious though that you'll never admit there's anything wrong even if trump uses your mouth to empty his diarrhea shit. You'll merely say "I get free protein from my president-god."
He doesn't know anyone except himself.
not normal in how i live my life? sheesh, not being a bum to society is not normal? i don't want to be normal if i am supposed to depend on everyone else for everything.
The 75% of Americans below them have been doing worse.
That's not because of immigrants, that because Republicans have ONLY
been serving the rich and screwing everyone else.
To make you accept this, they have been paying the media to lie to you.
That's WHY you think "it's those damn illegals", who are rapists, criminals and
gang members, but they also come steal your jobs.
Somehow, those raping gang members find the time to harvest your vegetables
and fruit, pack your meat, build your houses, cut your lawn, etc.
The ideas you have in your brain fall apart in one thought, but you can't see that.
While you and the rest of MAGA believe that stupid lie,
Trump lets Elon destroy your country further for the working class.
They want people to be their slaves and you are giving it to them.
Look at the countries of the dictators that Trump loves so much.
Would you like living in their countries? That's the future Trump holds for you.
Trump is destroying democratic elections, so you cannot vote back what you had,
when you finally get yourself out of the cult.
Do you think that's what people are protesting, in 50 states?
besides, have you notice oil has went down to 61 dollars a barrel>? have you noticed wholesale gas has went down almost 20 cents a gallon in the past few days>?
um
stock market dropped some. you know well as i do it was getting a bit over board. it will level out.
things take time.
just as surgery to fix a health issue, it takes cuts and blood and pain to get things fixed.
YES, HE IS THE PRESIDENT AND I’M NOT. DOES THAT MEAN HE IS RIGHT AND I AM WRONG? ARE THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW BECAUSE OF HISTORY, EDUCATION, AND PRESENT HAPPENINGS ARE WRONG TOO?
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besides, you don't have to buy a new car right now. wait and let the dust settle, when the folks get tired of holding their shit, they will reduce their tarrifs and then we will reduce ours.
THE PEOPLE HOLDING THEIR SHIT IS OUR GOVERNMENT. THE ECONOMY WAS DOING JUST FINE. WHY BREAK IT? AND WHAT HAPPENS IF I NEED A CAR OR ANYTHING NOW?
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besides, have you notice oil has went down to 61 dollars a barrel>? have you noticed wholesale gas has went down almost 20 cents a gallon in the past few days>?
um
YES, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM. OPEC WANTS TO BE IN A GOOD POSITION FOR THE MESS COMING.
“Eight key OPEC+ producers on Thuesday agreed to raise combined crude oil output by 411,000 barrels per day, speeding up the pace of their scheduled hikes and pushing down oil prices.
The group was widely expected to implement an increase of just under 140,000 barrels per day next month.
The May hike agreed on Thursday is “equivalent to three monthly increments,” OPEC said in a statement, adding that “the gradual increases may be paused or reversed subject to evolving market conditions.”
THERE’S ALSO A CONSENSUS OF ECONOMISTS THAT OIL, AS ONE OF THE FUELS THAT POWER PROSPERITY, MEASURES HOW AN ECONOMY IS WORKING. SUPPLY AND DEMAND COMES INTO PLAY. AS THE ECONOMY TANKS, LESS OIL IS USED. THIS CREATES A GLUT AND PRICE GOES DOWN.
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stock market dropped some. you know well as i do it was getting a bit over board. it will level out.
things take time.
just as surgery to fix a health issue, it takes cuts and blood and pain to get things fixed.
IT WAS NOT A BIT OVERBOARD. THE PRICE OF STOCKS IS WHATEVER THE MARKET THINKS IT IS. THIS HURTS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE 401K PLANS. IT ALSO HURTS INVESTORS. THE ECONOMY IS TAKING A HIT. AND FOR WHAT?
That's something we don't see in Europe, or WAY less.
You are bett1ng on the idea that those stocks will go up one day.
What is the route to recovery that you see? Explain the logic.
The idea is that tariffs will return production to the US, right?
Who is going to do those jobs? The unemployment rate in 2024 was 3.7%.
You are most likely counted as 1 of those 3.7%. Just like fat MAGA moms.
How many millions of immigrants did Trump want to deport?
First you need to fill all the jobs that those immigrants were doing.
Then where do you find the workers to do those production jobs?
And then I would like you to explain who's going to buy those American products?
You can forget about all the countries you just tariffed.
Do you think Asia will ever need what you are making?
In Europe, we can make those products cheaper in our own countries.
Just because the US tariffed everyone, doesn't mean they'll tariff each other.
The result is that the US either makes, sells and buys its own products, or you think you can out-compete the global market by still being cheaper, after tariffs.
It must be the last option, because you don't want wages to go up.
Without wages rising, you won't have Americans who can afford those products.
So, you think you can make those products cheaper and better than China.
-> Americans need to work harder and more efficient than Chinese people.
Another alternative is only making high-tech, high-value products.
You need highly educated technicians to build that production infrastructure.
Trump is destroying education as we speak, so that's not going to happen.
You are towards an economy of dumb workers, who are paid less than Chinese people and work harder, thinking you can out-compete China, while China is heavily investing in education and innovation. Do you want to switch positions with China from a few decades ago?
I'm asking you all of this, because I want you to show that you put any thought
to the future of your country and the choices you make as a voter.
Look, it doesn't matter what you or I think. At the end of the day people with 401K's lost a huge value of their principal and even if they have time to recoup some of that money, they never get it all back. And in this case I know personally. In 2008 MY 401 lost 40% and I was never able to get it back.
He wrote
"he is the President,you aint, so apparently he knows more than you or I.”
But he meant
"he is the one and only supreme almighty leader god,you aint, so apparently he knows more than you or I.”
He doesn't see trump as president,
he sees him as his personal god,
even though he'll deny that.
His devotion to him is the devotion
of a member of a religious cult.
He's ready to die for him and nothing will change his view,
not even I'd his god killed him.
here are some of those friendly bean picking farm hands that have been sent away.
only registered users can see external links
, six carried charges of child molestation, and one was charged with raxe,
cat's man has a record and is regularly reminded of it, but when others that have done the same or far worse are hauled away making our country safe, we are all supposedly
'getting fucked" leo, you make no sense at all sometimes.
-World chest champion Garry Kasparov, Chairman, Renew Democracy Initiative
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*chess champion
... or how it will be know in the near future "Trump Economic Disaster Day".
You are correct that tariffs could bring back manufacturing jobs.
If that was what Trump is doing now, I would praise him, even if it hurt my country.
Everyone in the world would understand and accept that, if that was what he was doing.
That's not what he is doing and that's not what he is saying.
He is starting a trade war for complete nonsense.
And there is no logic at all to HOW he's doing it.
Trump is completely incapable of doing what you are saying
and he didn't hire 'the best people' to advise him on this.
He's just doing incredibly stupid random shit, that will hurt EVERYONE.
You cannot expect your country to manufacture lumber like Canada was selling you,
in a few years. You cannot expect your automotive industry to make all the parts in
the US, at the same price as when you can buy them internationally. These are just 2 examples of tariffs that are going to hurt you, because your destroying your own global competition. You are also making the construction of your houses more expensive,
in a time when more and more people already cannot afford to buy a home.
While you need to bring back all those manufacturing jobs, you are simultaneously kicking out millions of immigrants who were doing your cheapest labor. You don't have millions of unemployed people who can do those jobs. If you did have them, no one would have welcomed those Haitians in Springfield. The economy of Springfield revived, purely because those Haitians filled the gap in your employment force. And that was BEFORE you deported the fruit and cotton pickers and meat-packers to prison camps
in El Salvador. (at least the results of your own stupidity will serve as a punishment for that cruelty)
The global industry is optimized to utilize the strength of all countries combined.
That's CAPITALISM. It's not my favorite system, but it is what developed humanity
to it's current level. It has tremendous side effects, especially when you let short-sighted selfish wealthy people dominate the system, but it used to work well, before it created
the pollution and inequity that is going to destroy humanity.
Republicans were the biggest advocates of free market capitalism in the world.
You are still always parroting their old arguments back to me. MAGA is now showing completely opposite principles. HOW can you process that in your brain?
How can you completely oppose my arguments, when I tell you that uncontrolled capitalism hurts people, but then argue back to me, that YOUR OWN PRINCIPLES HURT YOU, without being more open to what I have been telling you for years now?
They have deported a father of a 5 y.o. child, naturalized citizen, with no convictions. There is a whole list of people who were DOCUMENTED, never even had a parking ticket, but deported to a prison camp in El Salvador, without one day in court.
And when the get deported there "accidentally", your administration does nothing
to get them back. That's criminal.
And when they ask Trump about it, he says that he doesn't know about it.
"Wir haben es nicht gewußt" did the Nazis say.
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could it be these that were deported by mistake supposedly were hanging with the wrong crowd?
Immigrants commit way less crimes than 'real' Americans do.
But you keep thinking of them as criminals, who didn't crime yet.
There is only one term for that attitude: "racism".
Ice has mostly picked up people who were working on a farm or in a factory.
Many of them were NOT undocumented, but had some right to work in your country.
The large majority of them have never committed any crimes.
I told you that I don't want undocumented people working in my country either.
But that is the reality. It's not their fault, that's YOUR fault, for voting for Republicans, who took away all the accountability from immigrant exploiting employers, while blocking all the efforts from Democrats to increase workplace inspections and increase the number of green cards and other LEGAL working permits,
to FIX THE SYSTEM.
The PVV party in my country is doing the same thing as your Republicans did.
They are crying about immigrants, while making the system to handle them ineffective. Meanwhile, there are about a million working migrants in our country, getting exploited and creating problems in neighborhoods by being drunk and noisy. They are living with 20 people in an apartment, all paying hundreds of euros to some scummy employment agency. Our left-wing and liberal parties want to fix that exploitation, but the right-wingers block all efforts. Then we hear that there are owners of those scummy employment agencies in the right-wing parties and they get donations from them. Our politics is turning more corrupt, when right-wingers win the elections. They never solve a problem, but only make everything worse. Then they tell the people who get hurt from their actions that immigrants caused their problems and "the left" let them in. Right-wingers are telling the same old lies everywhere.
I don't understand why people like you keep believing them.
as for those that are supposedly documented, were the documents legit or fake>? there is a huge market for fake license,id's and such here in the us.
A documentation status isn't just owning a paper. Ever heard of records?
They have a big electronic machine, that stores information in the form of zeros and ones, coding for letters. All those computers are linked to each other with wires and radio signals. That way, people can enter information, so others can search and find it. Then they know things about people. It's all very convenient.
When you finally leave the 1940's, you might learn about them.
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vietnam, 90% tariff, how can we sell them anything?
90% because Vietnam has been screwing you? How?
just 1 example.
That's because Vietnamese people are cheap, not because they screw you.
That's capitalism, the system that you would kill and die for.
A socialist like me would say; we're not going to buy your tires anymore, until you pay your employees a decent wage and stop polluting. Then we would have actually a level playing field, in the global competition race. And we wouldn't destroy humanity, which is kind of nice.
i keep trying to explain to you that this price and wage thing is a hamster wheel, if 1 goes up the other follows and it just keeps going and going .
You already had a consumer economy, but with your tariffs that's now worse.
People need money to consume and keep your economy going.
This is something Henry Ford understood 100 years ago.
If no one has money to buy your stupid pick up trucks, they'll go bankrupt.
No one but Americans will buy your American products anymore, so it's up to you
to produce it and consume it. That won't work with poor people.
Those 1% of miljonairs and billionaires won't spend enough.
If your ideas are the blueprint, it will completely destroy your economy.
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