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Started by Andthisisme [Ignore] 18,Sep,25 06:12  other posts
For all those cheering the loss of Steven Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel and press freedom in general, remember the words of Pastor Neimoller, in 1946, YOU could be next.

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
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By phart [Ignore] 22,Sep,25 17:42 other posts 
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Sep,25 06:45 other posts 
Johnny Carson: "Why do they think that just because you have a tonight show
that you must deal in serious issues?"

You are making the exact same moves as everyone who ever supported an authoritarian cracking down on free speech. They use all the same arguments as you do.
Why don't you just say that you only support free speech for yourself and your side?

Not all talk-show hosts think they MUST. No one is telling them that they MUST.
Not all of them are doing that either. Some just suck off celebrities every evening.

Trump is ONLY having a problem with the ones who DO deal in serious issues.
They do that because the 'news' is doing such a godawful job at it.

"Comedians often address serious issues because comedy isn’t just about making people laugh — it’s also a way to make sense of the world. Humor has historically been used as social commentary, a “safe” way to poke at power, hypocrisy, or injustice. Jesters in royal courts, for example, could say things others couldn’t without being punished, because it was “just a joke.” That tradition lives on."

Several important figures, including U.S. Founding Fathers, defended satire as essential for democracy. One of the clearest is Thomas Jefferson. He believed in a free press, even if it was harsh toward politicians. He famously said in 1799: “Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.”
Even though newspapers of his day were often satirical, mocking, and viciously partisan, Jefferson saw that this kind of criticism, jokes and attacks included, was necessary to keep government accountable. No one reads newspapers anymore, so the late night talk-shows took over that role.

Do you support Trump in forcing them to not do that anymore?
Are the words of Johnny Carson somehow justification for that?
By phart [Ignore] 24,Sep,25 08:37 other posts 
Well the last few newspapers i read, were nothing but bullshit and ads.
So no,I don't read the paper,
Look at who owns most news papers,
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Do you trust Jeff bezo's to give you a truth you would believe?
Do you trust bloomberg?

I don't.
AS for night time tv, i don't watch it for the same reason. I don't trust disney to get the facts right, I don't consider jimmy kimmel to be funny, more of a ass hole.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Sep,25 10:27 other posts 
I know all your media is owned by billionaires. That's capitalism for you.
You still believe every word, if it comes from right-wing billionaires.
The owner of 'News'max is a billionaire too. You trust what they are saying, when it's only based on the tweet of a conspiracy theorist.

You should trust NO ONE to get the facts right. You should trust EVIDENCE.
Your right-wing media SUCKS at giving evidence. Even when they are sometimes factual, they STILL don't give you any evidence, because they don't want you to get used to that. That makes it harder for them to lie.

Jimmy Kimmel showed Trump's own words, on video. That's EVIDENCE.
It wasn't cut short, like your side always does. Trump's own words made Trump angry.
He is angry, because it showed everyone that Charlie Kirk was just a pawn to him.

It doesn't matter for free speech if you think he's funny. 20 Million YouTube subscribers say otherwise. Unlike you, liberals are not watching something to get their brain melted.
They expect something funny, interesting and new every time.

I repeat: you keep making the exact same points as everyone else who ever supported an authoritarian cracking down on free speech.

I think Greg Gutfeld is a major ass-hole. He has never told a good joke in his life.
Still, as long as he doesn't break the law, I support his right of free speech.

However, he is tarnishing that right much more than any of these talk-show hosts.
Greg Gutfeld was on air openly supporting hate and violence towards the left,
that he blamed for Charly Kirk's murder. That was obviously not true and very divisive.
Does any on your side acknowledge that? Is the FCC threatening Fox to take their license away? No, your whole political side is massively hypocritical. No principles.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 20,Sep,25 05:08 other posts 
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