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By phart [Ignore] 12,May,25 07:40 other posts 
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i wonder what will become of these 2?
hometown heros or hometown zeros?


By phart [Ignore] 30,Apr,25 18:38 other posts 

talk about low approval ratings, damn, jock itch has a higher rating than schumar.
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,May,25 10:57 other posts 
Duh, he's the weakest, most useless Democrat in history.
People don't hate him because they like Trump, but because this gutless fuck
doesn't fight against Trump (hard enough). Can't you understand that?

Want to see Jon Steward mock Chuck Schumer?
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Meanwhile, Bernie and AOC are amassing the biggest protest crows ever.
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By your logic, Schumer must be doing a great job, to be this unpopular.

Phart 3 days ago: "doesn't bother me at all. just tells me he is doing the job i hired him to do. if you aint pissin people off doing your job, you must be part of the problem instead of the solution."
By Sir-Skittles [Ignore] 06,May,25 12:54 other posts 
Bernie will be dead before he can run for president

Just a foolish old man peddling dreams that won't ever come to reality!

AOC- look at her own district- it is a disaster!
By dgraff [Ignore] 06,May,25 13:21 other posts 
The national average for a gallon of gasoline should be 2.67 per gallon if it’s higher than that means you live in a blue state with a democrat governor and he is taxing the piss out of it
3.02 in Pennsylvania
By Sir-Skittles [Ignore] 06,May,25 14:51 other posts 
$3.98 in Manhattan, the center of dem incompetence.
By phart [Ignore] 06,May,25 16:05 other posts 
2.67 this morning locally, road trips here i come!
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,May,25 03:52 other posts 
The fact that people cannot afford food, gas and rent,
is not just because they fuck you on prices,
but mostly because they fuck you on WAGES!!!

You are turning billionaires into trillionaires,
while your minimum wage is $7.25/hour.
THAT'S THE CAUSE, YOU POOR GULLIBLE TOOLS!!!
By dgraff [Ignore] 10,May,25 08:02 other posts 
So inquiring minds want to know why are you so interested in American politics??
Are you thinking of defecting to America if you are my i suggest you settle in Pennsylvania because a lot of your ancestors settled here and i would welcome you with open arms but you have to leave the democrat bull shit behind we have enough of them looney bastards already
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,May,25 08:56 other posts 
The fact that you even have to ask...
Trump has an impact on EVERYTHING. Ever heard of tariffs or Ukraine?

I told you that before: your country leads the way in the global economy. What you decide in your elections affects everyone else. When the US elects liberals who make the oligarchs pay the working class better, make the pharmaceutical companies lower their prices, invest in green energy to reduce climate change, make education more affordable, regulate big industry to pollute less and provide safe working environments, crack down on the finance industry to stop scamming customers, etc., that results in the EU doing similar things or better. When you pick Republicans, who only prop up billionaires and fuck over the working class, the EU follows that example more.

Your country is now turning full fascist. If you know any history, you would understand how that could turn out. In WWII those fuckers didn't have nukes.
You do!!

You claimed Trumpp was the anti-war candidate, but he is threatening Iran,
Mexico, Canada, Panama and Greenland and is actively involved in the genocide in Palestine and bombing Yemen for their reaction on that.
He's being directly aggressive to everyone except Russia.
Nothing but love for Putin, and thinking of quitting the aid to Ukraine.
That means that Europe needs to defend Ukraine by ourselves.
Why? Because we are next on Putin's to-do-list.

Why oh why would I be so interested in American politics??
Don't you think your question is a little bit silly???
By dgraff [Ignore] 10,May,25 18:21 other posts 
So you’re saying your already in the United States 🇺🇸 i hope you went through the proper channels or ice will pick you up and deport you to the Russian front then you will have to face that cry baby Zelenskyy
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 11,May,25 17:34 other posts 
Luckily, I'm still living in my socialist utopia, The Netherlands,
but you're raining on my parade.

Are you deporting people to fight for Putin already?
I knew you were Putin's bitch, but I didn't imagine it this bad.
By dgraff [Ignore] 11,May,25 18:18 other posts 
By bella! [Ignore] 10,May,25 03:56 other posts 
On my drive home from Florida I tracked my spending for gas specifically. At the time of this post, I cannot recall the exact cities that I fueled up in however I drove from Florida to Alabama then through Georgia, Tennessee, to Kentucky and from Kentucky to Ohio then into Michigan. I paid anywhere from $2.39(at the beginning of my trek), then there was $2.47, $2.75 and in Blufton, OH, I paid $3.08 at Circle K. This last tank of fuel took me home to Michigan where at “home” gas is $3.19!
By dgraff [Ignore] 10,May,25 06:35 other posts 
It’s slowly coming down no doubt about it
Trump is great trump is good let us thank him for our food
I don't want Bernie to run for president, I want him to build a movement and someone else to pick up the baton for the presidential run. Many Democrats now support AOC
to run for president, but I think that's a mistake, because too many of you are racist
and sexist. I want a progressive 55-70 year old white guy to run for president.

Note that you cannot say that Bernie is unpopular, because he has been the most popular senator for decades and is now attracting massive crowds.
By phart [Ignore] 06,May,25 22:16 other posts 
i honestly don't know who i want to run.
i would like for a person to run that is capable of doing what they promise, and stands up for America.

kamala would have open borders, empty prisons and every successful person in the country would penalized for making something of themselves
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,May,25 03:41 other posts 
Think about what you are saying.

"i would like for a person to run that is capable of doing what they promise"
Don't you care WHAT they promise?

"and stands up for America."
Can you tell me what that looks like? Is it destroying your (trade) relations
with your best friends and being weak on the worlds enemies?

You're just repeating your indoctrination on Kamala.
She's a weak centrist, who wouldn't have made your country much better,
but she wouldn't destroy it like Trump is doing now.

Are you worried about successful people getting penalized, while billionaires
are turning into trillionaires, while the average American cannot afford TO EAT
and pay RENT, at the same time? HOW GULLIBLE ARE YOU?
By Sir-Skittles [Ignore] 07,May,25 20:35 other posts 
Want to know why no one is posting about the shit going on in Europe? Because we don't give a shit!
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 08,May,25 09:47 other posts 
What 'shit going on in Europe' are you talking about?
By CAT52! [Ignore] 06,May,25 16:52 other posts 
Dgraff, you don’t make sense.
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By dgraff [Ignore] 06,May,25 18:16 other posts 
No I don’t make cents I make trump dollars for helping him win Pennsylvania in the election
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,May,25 05:40 other posts 
Did you buy Trump NFTs or Truth Social stock?
By CAT52! [Ignore] 08,May,25 00:35 other posts 
Daniel, I wouldn’t advertise that fact. You are a contributor to the mess we are experiencing right now.
By dgraff [Ignore] 08,May,25 06:00 other posts 
What mess my life is perfect right now
By CAT52! [Ignore] 08,May,25 08:47 other posts 
Yours? Yeah, maybe and I hope so, but, the rest of the country is not so lucky. So enjoy your life but, don’t act like an ostrich.
Your life was fine under Biden too, but then you DID worry about inflation
and people who couldn't afford groceries.

Strange how you don't care about anything, as soon as your side wins.
That's clearly looking away from all the chaos and destruction they create.

If my representatives would win and made a fucking mess, I wouldn't vote
for them again. Why don't you have that principle?
By dgraff [Ignore] 08,May,25 11:14 other posts 
Just what chaos are we talking about i don’t see any
And trump can’t run again so I won’t be voting for him next time
Right now I’m working on getting Pennsylvania a republican governor that’s my mission now
Back to the nursing homes and the youth groups
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,May,25 05:19 other posts 
There is NOTHING that I could say that make you think he's doing anything wrong.
But, at least I will try.

- Trump let Elon Musk rummage around in your government finances and everything the government knows about YOU, to cut and gut whatever a billionaire considers 'waste'. How about if Biden had let George Soros do that?

- Trump starting a trade war with every country on earth, even places where only penguins live, using a formula that was thought-up in 5 minutes, on a napkin. (figuratively, but it couldn't be worse if it was true) Do you think starting a trade war with your biggest trading partners isn't chaos? Of course not, you think that's smart negotiation when Trump does it. He came back on it though, showing him to be WEAK.

- Trump fired a four star general, because black people are by definition "DEI", and replace him with a completely unqualified white guy, with white nationalist tattoos and a history of violence and intoxication on the job. His first action is discussing war plans on Signal. He's the real "DEI candidate": lowering standards to meet his record incompetence level, because of his skin color.

- Trump acts completely on executive orders. He destroys whole government agencies, which were implemented by congress. He craps all over The Constitution and completely ignores judges and even the Supreme Court. Can we agree that Democrats can do that too from now?

- Every modern and free country hates the US now. They are all preparing to shift away from the US, not trusting the US anymore for any important service or product. How do you think that will affect your military industrial complex, your big media companies, your electronics industry. They will all go the direction of Tesla, as soon as they achieve more independence. To achieve that independence takes massive investments into technology and production capacity. Of course they won't invest with dollars, but with euros, because your financial systems cannot be trusted to be independent anymore either. Trump's actions are resulting in the exact opposite of his stated goals. How is that not chaos?

- Which countries still like Trump now? Israel? (Sure, but it's only costing you), Saudi Arabia? (9/11, supporters of al Qaeda), Russia? (only when it serves them), North Korea? (they are crazy and poor as dirt), Hungary? (poor as dirt and on the dole of Europe. If we kick them out of the EU, they collapse completely),
El Salvador? (only good for disappearing people, but poor as dirt).
Your 'friends' are a collection of dwarfs and trolls. They are mostly useless to you, because they are either weak or treacherous. The US became the wealthiest nation in the world, because of friendship with the rest of the modern world and selling stuff, even when others made that stuff. That won't continue. You cannot make anything yourself, because your people are dumb and you cannot live on internal consumption, because your people are poor.
By dgraff [Ignore] 09,May,25 08:14 other posts 
You make me laugh because I keep picturing you as a blonde haired blue eyed boy wearing wooden shoes and red shorts with green suspenders a white button up shirt and a green and red hat with your finger stuck in the leak in the dam so the towns people don’t get flooded
That picture in my mind is so funny that I can’t concentrate on anything you post
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,May,25 09:11 other posts 
The funny thing is that I didn't know the story about the boy who put his finger
in the dyke, until Americans told me.

Actually, I look very much like an American. I'm big, balding, overweight (normal for American standards), white guy with a goatee. I would fit in at any Trump rally, until I started to talk politics. I could probably wear a hat of my party too; it's red with a tomato logo. They would probably think the tomato is a good idea.


You think of the Dutch boy, because it's the ONLY Dutch thing you know.
When I imagine you, my image is probably dead accurate, because I have seen so many Americans on TV and in the media. (also, you just show photos)

Of course your country is much bigger and the center of the world in political issues, while my country is tiny and doesn't make the headlines as often.
Any person on the planet has a good idea about what the US is and does and what the average American looks like. But, it's also that Americans, in general, don't inform themselves about anything that happens in the world. That's because your media, which is owned by large corporations, purposely shuts out any information that could make you criticize the idea that America is the bestest country in the world. It's a very old strategy, that is mostly obsolete, because most Americans now know how fucked-up your country is, but they are used to selling you the fantasy that it isn't, and there is no money in breaking your fantasy.
Trump got elected by telling you how broken America is, but simultaneously you cannot admit to me that it is. You believe Trump AND you still believe the fantasy.

The best way to break that fantasy, is to look beyond your borders.
Instead, you crawled down more into your shell of denial.
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By phart [Ignore] 10,May,25 08:13 other posts 
that's just it, there have been 2 slight hiccups and thus far, my life is just fine.
most i paid for gas on a 800 mile road trip was 2.69 , when biden was in office i don't think i got it for less than 3.
By dgraff [Ignore] 10,May,25 08:34 other posts 
I even remember 4 and 5 dollars per gallon so anything under 3 dollars per gallon is heaven sent
Thank you Donald Trump
By phart [Ignore] 10,May,25 08:37 other posts 
the way i look at it, there are people trying to block Trumps actions to cause them not to work, people hate him so bad, they will ruin a country to stop him
Your gas prices were at the lowest in december 2024.
Did you thank Biden then?
By phart [Ignore] 10,May,25 11:33 other posts 
i contribute that to optimism in our future
By dgraff [Ignore] 10,May,25 12:20 other posts 
That’s bullshit trump’s last term gas was 1.87 per gallon and the democrats screwed it all up
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,May,25 13:55 other posts 
Nope, Covid screwed it up. First demand completely collapsed, forcing oil companies to stop production and taking big losses. We had a negative oil price for a while. Then demand returned, and the oil companies kept the production low, to increase the oil prices and recover their losses. We are still in post-covid over-consumption of oil right now, but Trump's tariffs have slowed the economic growth and production, lowering the demand for oil. Many producers are waiting for Trump's next move. They fear more tariffs, so they are minimizing product stock. Less production, means less demand for oil, means lower prices.
You're just celebrating the beginning of an economic crisis.

It doesn't have to come though. If Trump promises to stop his tariff plans,
the economy will probably go up again.
By phart [Ignore] 10,May,25 17:40 other posts 
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could you explain what is so bad about a $5 billion opportunity for new exports for U.S. farmers, ranchers, and producers please>? sounds pretty damn good to me.

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seems to me like if folks like you that hate Trump so bad would just calm the hell down, things would get better than before in due time.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,May,25 18:39 other posts 
Do you know how many HUNDREDS of billions in trade relations Trump has gambled, for this itty bitty deal with the UK? The whole world is rethinking being dependent on the US for anything critical, because they cannot trust you anymore. Maybe you don't know this, but I hear discussions regularly about the EU taking a distance from your intelligence agencies, not depending anymore on Google, Microsoft and other cloud services, your weapons manufacturers, the dollar, Wall Street, Boeing, LNG, the F-35 and your pharmaceutical industry. Do we still respect the sanctions that the US enforced on everyone else?
You might have a point that we didn't spend enough on our defense, but everything we did spend was ON YOUR WEAPONS. Now we are putting maximum effort and hundreds of billions of investments in making those weapons in Europe, because we cannot trust you to provide them anymore.
Selling some more produce to UK is peanuts compared to the damage that
Trump has done.

In his first term, Trump already showed the rest of the world, that the US cannot be trusted to keep an agreement, by pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement, the Iran Nuclear Deal, TPP, the INF Treaty, the UNHRC, UNESCO, the Global Compact for Migration, the Open Skies Treaty, the WHO, and he undermined the World Trade Organization.

He has squandered every last bit of trust that other countries had in the US.
No one has any reason to believe that the US will respect ANY deal, ever again, so why would the UK or Europe respect a deal with the US?
Remember that trade deal Trump made with China, during his first trade war? China promised to buy more soy products from the US. That never happened!
That 'historic trade deal with the UK' is as valuable as the paper it's printed on.

It's not just folks like me that hate Trump, it's everyone he ever did business with, it's almost everyone in his first administration, it's his former VP, most of his former lawyers who saw their careers tank, it's old people who donated to him once and found out the money keeps getting transferred periodically, it's everyone who once was loyal as a dog to him and he threw under the bus. Everyone who deals with him ends up regretting it, except you dumb-asses,
SO FAR!

Those government leaders that Trump thinks are groveling for him, are all much smarter than him. They stroke his ego, give him some peanuts, to keep the US on our side in the Ukraine/Russia conflict, for as long as we still need you to. But we are going all in to get our military production and capacity up. And when we don't need you for our protection anymore, we might not want to need you for ANYTHING anymore. America had it's best days as superpower and is flailing, we don't want China to be the new superpower, so the best solution is
to become one ourselves. Europe has 745 million people, much lower debt than the US, a highly educated workforce, innovation strength and has a good reputation with most countries in the world.
By phart [Ignore] 10,May,25 20:28 other posts 
well i am proud of your little country putting it's self first for a change. no one should depend on anyone for anything. take care of yourselves then help others if needed.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 11,May,25 17:41 other posts 
Cooperation isn't "helping". It's the idea that 1 + 1 = 3.
(It's not math, it's economics)

However, cooperation can only work, if both parties strive towards
similar goals. Otherwise it turns into -1 + 1 = 0.


By leopoldij [Ignore] 11,May,25 15:53 other posts 
trump's approval rating keeps falling

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That's from the Economist, phart


By Cody8789 [Ignore] 11,May,25 01:40 other posts 
Happy Mother’s Day to all you motha’s out there
By dgraff [Ignore] 11,May,25 05:17 other posts 
Happy Mother’s Day Cody love ya


By phart [Ignore] 10,May,25 11:30 other posts 
Trumps tariffs are working so well even the Pope is made in the Usa now!
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,May,25 19:31 other posts 
He sounds like a woke liberal. You'll probably hate him soon enough.

No captain of industry is g@mbling hundreds of billions of dollars and an effort of many years, to bring back production to the US, where that production will be more expensive, on the fickle nature of Trump, who could die from his fat heart any day, and who can become a lame duck in the next election. Trump has already caved on his tariffs, and he calls it a negotiation tactic regularly. It's putting the economy on a ledge, so they are all JUST WAITING to see what he's going to do. It's NOT working!

I'm not saying that is CANNOT work, I'm just saying that Trump is to dumb
and unreliable to make it work.
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By phart [Ignore] 10,May,25 11:54 other posts 
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wow, just speaking your mind puts you in prison. boy those brits sure do have freedom don't they>?


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By phart [Ignore] 06,May,25 11:35 other posts 
uh, do yourself a favor and look at Trumps first term.
then you need to understand this is only 4 months into his second term ,after 4 years of joe biden making a mess in his depends and the country
By leopoldij [Ignore] 06,May,25 19:54 other posts 
People don't like dictators.
By phart [Ignore] 06,May,25 22:17 other posts 
well, that's what most countrys have if you really look things over closely.
in ukraine, zelenski has seized power because the country is at war, not allowing for a election for the people to select another.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 07,May,25 16:07 other posts 
I'm sorry you like dictators. You're the anathema of the human species.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 08,May,25 00:37 other posts 
Most countries have dictators? Hmmmm.
By phart [Ignore] 09,May,25 21:31 other posts 
what does cuba have?
what does north korea have?
what does russia have?
what does england have?a king you say? not much difference.
ukraine, may as well call their leader a dictator,he is not legit now because a election was missed

In 2019, there were 92 countries considered to be dictatorships, while 87 were considered democracies, according to the Carnegie Corporation of New York. This indicates that dictatorships outnumbered democracies at that time, with 70% of the world's population living in authoritarian regimes.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 10,May,25 00:11 other posts 
ictatorship Countries 2025
As of 2020, there are 52 nations with a dictator or authoritarian regime ruling the country: Three in Latin America and South America, 27 in Asia and the rest in
Some are dictatorships with wide range if citizen right.
England has a monarch as a figure head but parliament and the Prime Minister do the governing and they are elected
There are 15 democracies with kings.
There are 8 dictatorships with kings.

There are 120 democracies with presidents.
There are 60 dictatorships with presidents.

That's about the same ratio of democracies vs dictatorships.

By 2020 numbers, the top 5 most democratic countries were:
#1 Denmark: king
#2 Norway: king
#3 Finland: president
#4 Sweden: king
#5 Germany: president
Those kings serve a ceremonial role with limited or no political power.

The UK ranked as #17 most democratic country (Working Democracy)
The US ranked as #36 most democratic country (Deficient Democracy)
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In 2025, the US was demoted to "Flawed Democracy".
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That was just after Elon Musk meddled in the presidential campaign.

I cannot find any more recent assessments of America's democracy,
but we can expect it to drop like a rock.


By #623135 22,Jun,21 10:16
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So they are already having issues with charging electric cars?
Sheesh,what about in 5 years? The power company are not permited to build new power plants.Solar and wind are going to be important to keep the grid up. But that didn't work in Texas did it?
They make a lot of energy in Texas,but how many folks died over the winter this past 1?

Angel1227!
So a private, for profit, company did not plan on a hard winter so their production of electricity was not sufficient? And this utility, regulated by the states, failed to meet the demands? This state (Texas) governed by Repukers was not regulated correctly so this company spent less on production and got richer because of it? This sounds very much like a Repuker business idea.
By phart [Ignore] 22,Jun,21 22:13 other posts 
Regulation? Hahaha,look at californicated, that is what happens when you over regulate. No one can trim trees off the lines, the power company has to cut power off in high winds,that is the result of Liberal-democrat regulation. Hug the trees,to hell with the humans.
I fault the power companys in texas to a point but I also fault the citizens for lack of preparedness.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,Jun,21 08:10 other posts 
The power companies in Texas are now have trouble providing enough power for air-conditioning. The problem in the winter were not a fluke. It happens again only months later. Prices for power skyrocketed again. Many people again received electric bills for thousands of dollars. Texas' power market is not a good example of 'good' deregulation.

Face it, sometimes you need regulation, especially for basic facilities like power.
By #623135 23,Jun,21 12:19
Did I mention California? Was this the subject of the conversation? This is about Texas and it’s power company. Phart reply to this or open another thread.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Jun,21 12:27 other posts 
I posted a link to a news report about california having issues with electric car charging,
And I then mentioned the issues in texas with electricity.
What everyone is missing here is the fact there is NOT enough electricity being produced to meet CURRENT demand.As Ananas has indicated.So imagine if you will,5-10 years from now,when there is GREATER demand? What a mess we are in for.
Regulation is not the solution. that is how you GOT TO THIS POINT. To many regulations preventing new power plants being built and trying to snuff out coal,a effective energy source.
By #623135 23,Jun,21 16:34
Phart do you think power companies sat down in the 1920’s and said, “We are building for the future so, in 1945, we stop because there’ll be too many regulations to conduct business”?
You think that if they are running short they won’t try to catch up? The regulations you protest are there to protect the people and the environment. But, knowing how you think, fuck that. Let coal continue to pollute. We’ll be dead by the time our grandkids die of poisoned air.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Jun,21 19:40 other posts 
newest nuclear power plant started in 2016.
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Only 2 under construction according to this chart.
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The US shut down how many? lets see
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Now, we shut down 39 and we are building 2. Does that sound like regulations are helping any? 2, there are 50 states. So state regulation is not changing anything where it may be either.
If you want coal gone,you need to have a replacement handy before hand.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 02:17 other posts 
Maybe those old reactors have become very dangerous over time and/or they are not as efficient as the new ones.
Nuclear power is not the solution. There are 80 sites in the United States where nuclear waste is stored. Some of it is stored temporary in a location that is not safe long term. The best uranium sites are already running out and it's getting ever more expensive to mine the stuff.

That waste has to be looked after for the next 20,000 to 1M years, before it's safe. Humanity probably kills itself before that or there might be a few survivors that don't know how to keep the waste safe and radiation will finish them off. But who cares, right?

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Like nuclear is the only alternative to coal.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 09:18 other posts 
Well Ananas, at least we have some common ground, I h@te nuclear and wish people would have enough sense to study other ideas.
I just used nuclear here because MOST tree huggers-liberals,think nuclear is the answer.And it has Ooodles of issues that take Many years to deal with.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 12:27 other posts 
Glad we agree

Actually, I even prefer fossil fuels over nuclear, even though I'm a tree hugger-liberal. Nuclear might be a bit better on carbon emissions when the reactor is built, but building new ones creates so much emissions, it takes 20 years to recover.
Another problem is that nuclear reactors take ages to start up and stop again, which is not practical as backup for solar and wind. Fossil fuels are at least needed until we have enough geothermal, hydro (incl. wave), biofuel, biogas, hydrogen, chemical storage (formic acid), thermal energy storage, battery storage and whatever I forgot or they think up next.

Then there is off-course the waste and the risk.
By #623135 24,Jun,21 09:43
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By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 11:47 other posts 
qoute "Reducing the overall demand for electricity makes it easier for renewables like solar and wind to fill the gap, and targeted projects can reduce demand on the grid at peak times."

Eh so more electric cars will reduce demand?
I know you are not a engineer,but even you should be able to figure out that can't work.
By #623135 24,Jun,21 12:29
I don't pretend to be an engineer, but, I do know electric vehicles will not burn fossil fuels and pollute. If (and it looks like they are) the local electric companies can't handle the load they will have to upgrade. Eventually they will reach parity. Again, I say to you, if a problem exists, there will have to be an adjustment. Electric companies are allowed by government to be monopolies, but, they can loose it all if they can't provide proper service.
Coal is pretty much done as an industry. Not just because of regulations, but because investors and insurers are now backing away. If we all switch to electric cars soon, there's definitely a challenge to provide that electricity, but the overall power consumption will go down. Electric cars are more efficient. Now, I'm not talking about Tesla's that do 0 to 60 in 2 s and are comparable to a Porsche, but sensible electric cars that are appearing now.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 10:57 other posts 
It's nice to see that the world is moving towards new energy solutions, such as electric cars. We can't afford burning fossil fuels any longer. I'm glad to see that everyone agrees on that. Perhaps Saudi Arabia will be unhappy, but that country is a militant dictatorship with
groas violations of human rights, so the US or Europe don't need them as an ally.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 11:50 other posts 
Um, who do you think backed the loans for the solar farms around here? Saudi Arabia.
If they can't sell us oil ,they will make their money on interest from loans.
We could afford to use fossil fuels if we could finish our pipelines and drill in otherwise useless lands like up north in alaska where there is nothing but woods.
The alaskan pipeline built long ago,was supposed to be such a wildlife disaster,ha,the animals love it,it is warm near the pipeline.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 12:00 other posts 
Glad you agree.
By #623135 24,Jun,21 12:30
Fossil fuels promote pollution. Doesn't that get through your head?
By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 16:47 other posts 
Eh yea,some,but nuclear wipes out MILES of earth for 100's of years. Check out Chernobyl sometime.

California has MILES of coast line,Why are they not looking into this tech?
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Instead of wasting all that coast line for half naked people to lay around and spread covid,there could be power plants there!
NO pollution! No noise that is not already there,and erosion control! WOW,
Kansas,could be using wind and solar to help of course.
Another non polluting power source,
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By #623135 24,Jun,21 21:05
Every time I think I’ve heard all your dippy theories, you come up with a new one.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 22:05 other posts 
Same here! No theorys posted, those are technology's already being tested and shown to work,perhaps just not as efficient as others.
I actually use some old equipment that is electric that was made way back before it was "cool" So I research alternative energy sources and what not for that reason. If I lived near a active stream,you better believe there would be a water wheel turning a old Gm alternator to charge back up batterys.
When I build a green house,yep,I will use geothermal to help with temp control.
By #610414 25,Jun,21 07:37
If I lived next to a moving stream, I, too, would use it for power, however, you would need several deep discharged batteries and a back up energy system in case you deplete your batteries too fast. I would also go upstream a few hundred yards and divert some of the water through pipes to have energy free house water.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Jun,21 12:15 other posts 
Just some old car batteries are better than nothing. It's free energy.
Every bit you can use of it is better than none at all.
That sound very cool. I would love to do some tinkering like that.

Here are some fun do-it-yourself builds on YouTube.
I had seen them before and it made me regret living next to a stationary ditch.
Maybe there are some ideas you can use:
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By phart [Ignore] 25,Jun,21 13:32 other posts 
the third link i watched the whole thing, very interesting,will get the other 2 tonight.
I DO NOT quite understand the amount of AMPS he is getting from that washing machine motor.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Jun,21 05:46 other posts 
Here they say 600W should be possible. A washing machine motor will use 400 to 1300 watts. They might not be as efficient to generate the same amount, but can still do the job pretty well, as it seams and should be very easy to obtain.

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By #623135 28,Jun,21 17:51
Phart
How many Chernobyl’s do you know? One in the states, one in Japan, and one in Russia. Here, in Miami-Dade county, FP&L has been operating the local one over 50 yrs. Same in other cities around the state. And no pollution
By phart [Ignore] 28,Jun,21 18:03 other posts 
3 mile island here in the US. Prompted a nation wide process of adding new cooling systems.1 of my neighbors worked on the crew that went around building it. Made a fortune doing it.

You don't hear about the Mcquire plant here in NC getting to hot but it did a few years ago. The tree huggers were angry because a type of fish was dieing from getting caught in the cooling system water.So they put a screen over the intake. Worked fine for a while. Until the screen clogged up with little fishes.A employee told me about it.

Here is a long list of potential accidents and how to deal with them
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Yea,I know,I got dizzy after 10 minutes of readin!

I can't see a coal plant being any where near as dangerous to operate
By #623135 29,Jun,21 08:16
Sometimes it’s not what you can see but what you can’t
So what's your point? Just let any company kill whatever part of nature is in their way, because US companies are completely inadequate in solving any problem ever?
They can't even take in water, without sucking up all the fishes
By #623135 29,Jun,21 09:23
Ananas2xlekker my point is that all companies have a responsibility to protect the environment. People are part of the environment. In this case, the “sucking up of all the fishes” is not because the plant is nuclear. Yes, the reactors do need cooling. Cooling canals and reservoirs are needed. In this case, some knucklehead got the idea to put a screen on the pickup line. Duh, a cheap fuckup because of a cheap fix. Seems to me that an industry that can build nuclear reactors to make electricity should be able to prevent “little fishies” from clogging the intake of cooling water. Spent nuclear fuel rods are a problem. Finding a location to store them safely is still a problem and hopefully it better be resolved soon.

According to the Rainforest Action Network. For decades, climate change has been a global crisis that will impact every single person and living being on this planet. Now, according to the latest UN climate report, we have less than 10 years to cut global emissions in half.

Burning fossil fuels isn’t just bad for the climate, these industries also violate countless fundamental human rights. From frontline communities facing a fossil fuel pipeline on their land to Indigenous people facing fires in the Amazon to worker rights violations on palm oil plantations, the industries fueling climate change are also fueling injustice.

Coal, tar sands, and fracked gas show everything that’s wrong within the fossil fuel industry. These extraction practices are harming people and planet every day, and big banks are fueling this destruction of the planet and negligence of life.

So what’s so bad about coal, tar sands, and fracked gas? Basically everything, from start to the finish these fossil fuels are disastrous. For decades, climate change has been a global crisis that will impact every single person and living being on this planet. Now, according to the latest UN climate report, we have less than 10 years to cut global emissions in half.

Burning fossil fuels isn’t just bad for the climate, these industries also violate countless fundamental human rights. From frontline communities facing a fossil fuel pipeline on their land to Indigenous people facing fires in the Amazon to worker rights violations on palm oil plantations, the industries fueling climate change are also fueling injustice.

Coal, tar sands, and fracked gas show everything that’s wrong within the fossil fuel industry. These extraction practices are harming people and planet every day, and big banks are fueling this destruction of the planet and negligence of life.

So what’s so bad about coal, tar sands, and fracked gas? Basically everything, from start to the finish these fossil fuels are disastrous.

Like I said, “What you don’t see can be more dangerous.”
By phart [Ignore] 29,Jun,21 10:33 other posts 
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chernobyl didn just happen and stop.It is still happening today.

Smog will go away at some point.
coal smoke can be filtered.Try filtering radiaton.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Jun,21 13:39 other posts 
Managing the Chernobyl disaster has probably already cost more energy than several nuclear reactors will produce in their lifetime. The exclusion zone of Chernobyl; 2600 km², if filled with solar panels, would produce 234 TWh/year. That's about twice the whole electricity consumption of The Netherlands.

So we only would need half that exclusion zone filled with solar panels
and that would cost about 78 Billion Euro's. That would raise our national debt from 56.3% of GDP to 66.2% of GDP.
Jobs for all our unemployed people will pull that debt down soon enough.
By #623135 30,Jun,21 08:42
You forget that the disaster in Chernobyl happened to a nuclear electric plant that would never be built in the US. According to the Atomic Energy Commission, this type of reactor was ver vulnerable to the disaster. The USSR didn’t care. Like the Chinese, they wanted results.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jun,21 09:54 other posts 
How about Fukushima?
Accidents happen. Even if the chance is 1:1M (historically proven it's much higher), when you multiply that risk by the number of nuclear power plants required, something catastrophic will happen at some point. Such catastrophes could cost more than the complete energy transition.
That's not worth it, because nuclear power is only a temporary solution, because the uranium will run out at some point. It's already becoming more and more expensive to mine the stuff.

Even if all those problems didn't exist, it still takes 10 years before any nuclear power plant has compensates his own build. But it first takes 10 years to build any. Then after 20 years, they are just as CO2 effecient as wind and solar. That's too late. We need to lower CO2 emissions ASAP.

Anyone with some money to spare can invest in their own solar panels,
lower their costs and be less dependent on power companies.
It's nice to have air-conditioning in a heat wave, when the government
is telling you not to use power or you can't afford it when power companies are charging you 100x the normal rate.

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By #623135 30,Jun,21 10:08
Fukushima’s disaster included the meltdown but IT WAS THE SUNAMI THAT CAUSED IT AND MOST OF THE DEVASTATION of that city. Last I’ve checked there are no dinamices happening in Kansas. I will give you this one. In Californicate state they’ve built one on the fault line. Engineer had too much Blow.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jun,21 11:06 other posts 
Isn't Kansas part of Tornado Alley?
There are al sorts of natural disasters, but it can also be a terrorist attack or a hacker or just basic human error.
By #623135 30,Jun,21 11:21
Yes, it is but you can’t compare a wind storm, even a tornado, to a sunami. Our nuclear plant in Turkey Point went through several hurricanes . Hurricanes produce tornados inside the storm. Hurricane Andrews destroyed large swaths out of the county. Huge communities disappeared. The Turkey Point plan took it in stride.
BTW, instead of Kansas I could have picked West Virginia
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As far as anything else, we have to trust security will prevail. Every thing is a crapshoot. Hopefully we don’t roll snake eyes,
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jun,21 12:54 other posts 
Or just choose all the many alternatives and don't build any new nuclear power plants. Why are you such a proponent of nuclear energy? What do you consider the advantage over truly sustainable energy technologies?
By #623135 30,Jun,21 13:30
Except for solar energies nuclear is the most reliable. I guess I’m like a Trump supporter but with nuclear capability--------------------------------------- added after 11

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I was talking to phart.
I also don't like nuclear energy and my arguments are in line with the science on climate change. That uranium has to be mined, which also emits CO2.
A nuclear power plant takes a lot of energy to be built and maintained.
Then afterwards we have to keep the waste safe for the next 20,000 years.
On the short term nuclear is about as energy/CO2 efficient as wind power and even less than solar. In the long term nuclear has a horrible energy/CO2 efficiency, because keeping the waste safe also costs energy. Also, building nuclear power plants takes a long time and lots of materials. It takes about 10 years before a nuclear power plant compensates his own build. That's about 1-1.5 years for wind energy and 2 years for solar. However solar is cheaper
on maintenance.

Other than that, I agree with most of what you said.

All energy technology costs money, materials, energy and land to build and maintain. All energy technology has downsides like pollution, mineral shortages, exploitation of people and CO2 emissions. We just need to stop with the worst energy technologies first and expand on the best ones the most.

It doesn't require completely changing our life or have impact on the quality of our life. However climate change already impacts our life and it will only get worse. We can either choose to accept some changes now and prevent total catastrophe later or we can deny the truth until catastrophe proves us wrong.
By #623135 29,Jun,21 15:43
I wish we went back to the pre 1860’s. We really don’t need electricity. Natural gas was good enough to live and we don’t need TV or cars.


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